I am building a house in a rural area, where land is cheap. Building is not.
Timber is certainly expensive, but you know what else costs a lot? All the other stuff, much of it subject to state building codes that get more restrictive every year.
Asbestos survey, assessment, abatement: $10k
Asbestos air monitoring: $1k
Tipping fees: 20k
Spray foam insulation: $27k
Foundation $50k
Solar: 40k (not including rebates/incentives)
Requirements for outlets. Requirements for windows. Setbacks from a utility pole on our property, 50 yards/meters from the nearest road. We have to deal with that mess and pay extra to site the foundation, not National Grid!
Even if we were getting a manufactured home (built to looser FEMA standards) we would still have to deal with some of these costs, such as asbestos, tipping fees and foundation. And the cheapest double wide is $300k.
If you are building from scratch, why do you need an asbestos survey? What are you surveying?
And does your state really require spray foam insulation and solar? Or does it require an R-value for insulation and spray foam is the easiest way to get there with your design?
Spray foam is the most expensive way to get R-value. Unless you have space constraints, or existing air sealing concerns, you should not use spray foam.
It makes sense that the asbestos stuff would be required for a building that has asbestos. Improper remediation can cause harms outside of your property.
The R-value also makes sense IMO. "You can't build houses that aren't properly insulated" is probably a net good -- although only if the insulation level makes sense for the region. If it's too high, I agree with you.
I don't think it's fair to complain about the cost of solar if it's not required.
> I don't think it's fair to complain about the cost of solar if it's not required.
I didn't read the solar comment as a complaint but rather an additional enumeration of costs. They wanted solar so it's a non-zero cost on the house. They could have also gone with the cheapest-to-regular slab thickness and saved money but didn't.
Got to say using spray foam to insulate the wall cavities instead of using external insulation over the structural elements is about the worst idea ever.
Also how much solar can you buy for $27k? Enough to supply 60kwh a day to run a heat pump.
Building a perfect wall with external insulation is kind of expensive and hard to get approved by an inspector. It's much easier to just do it the way everyone else does and follow national building code.
When land is cheap, do what the locals do - out buildings abound!
It can be worth your while to sit down and map out house areas, purposes, and requirements, and change as many of them as you can to avoid mandatory features.
Really the issue is the PoS terminal the builders use default to a 20% and all the options presented are higher. You feel like a real creep tapping other and typing in 0 in front of them.
Timber is certainly expensive, but you know what else costs a lot? All the other stuff, much of it subject to state building codes that get more restrictive every year.
Asbestos survey, assessment, abatement: $10k
Asbestos air monitoring: $1k
Tipping fees: 20k
Spray foam insulation: $27k
Foundation $50k
Solar: 40k (not including rebates/incentives)
Requirements for outlets. Requirements for windows. Setbacks from a utility pole on our property, 50 yards/meters from the nearest road. We have to deal with that mess and pay extra to site the foundation, not National Grid!
Even if we were getting a manufactured home (built to looser FEMA standards) we would still have to deal with some of these costs, such as asbestos, tipping fees and foundation. And the cheapest double wide is $300k.