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I don't need my bed to transmit measurements to a server. I need my bed to be comfortable to sleep on. I need exactly zero interactions with a server for that.

So, yeah, back to the question. Why does my bed have an SSH server? Because it needs to be able to talk to some machine on the internet. And why does my bed need that? It's a bed.

[Edit: Wait a minute. Even if I do want to transmit measurements, why is my bed running a server? My bed should be running a client.]




If you sleep alone, live in a comfortable climate, and don't have any sleep problems, or back pain problems, I'm happy for you. Your experience isn't universal though and sleep is the most important thing you can do for your body so getting good sleep is paramount. Furthermore, having data on how well you slept is very useful for figuring out your own body. We wear devices to log how many steps we take, a device to log how you sleep is just an extension of that.

Are you even taking care of yourself if you don't have one?

Okay no but seriously, a smart bed that helps you get really good sleep at night so you wake up rested and ready to face the whole world may not be your cup of tea, but that's what they're selling. You could get that without all the technology, but what's the sleep company going to do with the data? Know that you sleep at night? What's the privacy danger in that?


The bed doesn’t need a cloud connection to do any of those advanced features. A phone app and BLE connection (like a smart watch) could easily handle it.


what happens when the local device dies and the customer replaces it with a new one? how does the customer's history get preserved?


How much of your sleep history could you possibly need?


> I don't need my bed to transmit measurements to a server. I need my bed to be comfortable to sleep on. I need exactly zero interactions with a server for that.

Then don’t buy this specific bed?

These features are part of why people buy this product. Nobody is accidentally purchasing this as “just a bed” and then discovering that it has an app and smart controls as a surprise later.

> And why does my bed need that? It's a bed.

This is a very dishonest take. If you don’t understand or don’t want the product, then don’t buy it. But the smart controls exist because people (other than you) want them.


> Why does my bed have an SSH server?

because you bought it. sitting across the show room floor or one of the other pics on the sales website were other beds that did not have these features. instead, you let the sales person push you into a sale of a product you weren't happy with or you did not pay attention to the product listing. or your spouse bought it. none of these says anything positive about your situation though, so some inner reflecting on why you're such a bad consumer is warranted


Yikes, your posts in this thread broke the site guidelines repeatedly and very badly. Can you please not do that? We have to ban accounts that do.

I saw your other comment about "pointing out facts" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40840546) - but even if that's true, it in no way makes it ok to break the rules, such as by being aggressive with others. There are a bunch of past explanations about that here, if you or anyone wants more: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


> did not pay attention to the product listing

Since when has a consumer product listing mentioned an SSH server backdoor?


Despite the way I worded my previous post, I didn't buy one of these. Your venom is misdirected.




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