> Supporting the war in Ukraine is just another example of “bombing brown people...

valval · 2024-09-01T11:41:24 1725190884

Of course this time around we have to do the bombing through some middlemen because the brown people have big guns too, and the people aren’t actually brown this time around. They do speak a weird language though and have different cultural values, so maybe that qualifies.

Ukraine isn’t our ally. That’s a silly sentiment. Ukraine is a developing country wholly comparable to say Zambia or Namibia. Our interests just happen to align this way this time around.

aguaviva · 2024-09-01T14:59:17 1725202757

Ukraine is a developing country wholly comparable to say Zambia or Namibia.

Ukraine is a highly developed country, in some ways more than the U.S. Its people are certainly way more educated, on average.

If you can't get that part right, then I doubt you have much to tell us about the context of the war or whether Ukraine is an ally or not.

valval · 2024-09-01T19:51:19 1725220279

The numbers are all out there, behind 1 minutes of searching.

My wife's side of the family is entirely Russian, so I have some basic knowledge on the subject.

aguaviva · 2024-09-01T20:13:41 1725221621

The numbers are all out there, behind 1 minutes of searching.

And they speak decidedly against your claims:

https://hdr.undp.org/system/files/documents/hdr2020.pdf

Ukraine's development ranking is classed as 'High', while Namibia and Zambia are both classed as 'Medium'.

My wife's side of the family is entirely Russian, so I have some basic knowledge on the subject

I have direct knowledge of the country as well. Your relatives can say whatever they want to say.

valval · 2024-09-02T10:57:50 1725274670

A handy report crafted by biased people in some unproductive sinecures, but the numbers really do speak for themselves.

aguaviva · 2024-09-05T02:01:28 1725501688

So you've never actually seen "the numbers", is what I'm hearing.

Yet you know they're out there somewhere, and that they speak for themselves.

Propelloni · 2024-09-01T12:07:33 1725192453

> Ukraine isn’t our ally. That’s a silly sentiment.

You know what, I agree.

potatototoo99 · 2024-09-01T09:26:02 1725182762

The US has no allies, only interests. It interests us to be adversarial to Russia. It interests us to "bomb brown people". None of which is done out of some moral duty.

Propelloni · 2024-09-01T12:01:46 1725192106

Is this supposed to be some insight? The very definition of "alliance" says: groups or people who work together because of shared interests. You ally because you share interests, e.g. a specific goal.