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Isn't everybody in NYC already? (The dangers of bad driving are much higher for pedestrians than for people in cars; there are more of the former than of the latter in NYC; I'd expect there to be a non-zero number of fully self driving cars already in the city.)



That doesn't answer my question.


It does, in a way; AI is already there, all around you, whether you like it or not. Technological progress is Pandora’s box; you can’t take it back or slow it down. Businesses will use AI for critical workflows, and all good that they bring, and all bad too, will happen.


How about you answer my question since he did not.

Would you trust your life to a self-driving car in New York City traffic?


GP got it exactly right: I already am. There's no way for me to opt out of having self-driving cars on the streets I regularly cross as a pedestrian.


Do you live in a dense city like New York City or San Francisco? Or places with less urban sprawl that are much easier for self-driving cars to navigate?

Also you still haven't answered my question.

Would you get in a self-driving car in a dense urban environment such as New York City? I'm not asking if such vehicles exist on the road.

And related questions: Would you get in one such car if you had alternatives? Would you opt to be in such a car instead of one driven by a person or by yourself?


> Would you get in a self-driving car in a dense urban environment such as New York City? [...] Would you get in one such car if you had alternatives?

I fortunately do have alternatives and accordingly mostly don't take cars at all.

But given the necessity/opportunity: Definitely. Being in a car, even (or especially) with a dubious driver, is much safer (at NYC traffic speeds) than being a pedestrian sharing the road with it.

And that's my entire point: Self-driving cars, like cars in general, are potentially a much larger danger to others (cyclists, pedestrians) than they are to their passengers.

That said, I don't especially distrust the self-driving kind – I've tried Waymo before and felt like it handled tricky situations at least as well as some Uber or Lyft drivers I've had before. They seem to have a lot more precision equipment than camera-only based Teslas, though.


Yes? I’ve taken many many waymos in SF. Perfectly happy trusting my life to them. I have alternatives (uber) and I pick self driving . Are you up to date on how many rides they’ve done in sf now? I am not unusual


I would


If there are any fully-autonomous cars on the streets of nyc, there aren’t many of them and I don’t think there’s any way for them to operate legally. There has been discussion about having a trial.




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