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How do you configure S3 access control? You need to learn & understand how their IAM works.

How do you even point a pretty URL to a lambda? Last time I looked you need to stick an "API gateway" in front (which I'm sure you also get nickel & dimed for).

How do you go from "here's my git repo, deploy this on Fargate" with AWS? You need a CI pipeline which will run a bunch of awscli commands.

And I'm not even talking about VPCs, security groups, etc.

Somewhat different skillsets than old-school sysadmin (although once you know sysadmin basics, you realize a lot of these are just the same concepts under a branded name and arbitrary nickel & diming sprinkled on top), but equivalent in complexity.




How does one install and run Linux/BSD/another UNIX? One needs to learn and understand how a UNIX works.

The essence of the complaint that one has to have the knowledge of something before that something can be used. It seems like a reasonable expectation for just about anything in life.

(The API gateway in AWS is USD 2.35 for 10 million 32 kB requests, a Lambda can have its own private URL if required and Fargate does not deploy Git repos, it runs Docker images.)


> The essence of the complaint that one has to have the knowledge of something before that something can be used

My point was to disprove that "cloud" is simpler than conventional sysadmin - it is not, and it involves similar effort, complexity and manpower requirements.


I will have to disagree on that.

Cloud is simpler than conventional sysadmin, once its foundational principles are understood and the declarative approach to the cloud architecture is adopted. If I want to run a solution, cloud gives me just that – a platform that simply runs my solution and abstracts the sysadmin ugliness away.

I have experienced both sides, including UNIX kernel and system programming, and I don't want to even think about sysadmin unless I want to tinker with a UNIX box on a weekend as a leisure activity.




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