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> although I was worried that folks are too locked in to SaaS stuff

For some people the cloud is straight magic, but for many of us, it just represents work we don't have to do. Let "the cloud" manage the hardware and you can deliver a SaaS product with all the nines you could ask for...

> teaching a course on how to do all this ... there might be interest in that after all?

Idk about a course, but I'd be interested in a blog post or something that addresses the pain points that I conveniently outsource to AWS. We have to maintain SOC 2 compliance, and there's a good chunk of stuff in those compliance requirements around physical security and datacenter hygiene that I get to just point at AWS for.

I've run physical servers for production resources in the past, but they weren't exactly locked up in Fort Knox.

I would find some in-depth details on these aspects interesting, but from a less-clinical viewpoint than the ones presented in the cloud vendors' SOC reports.




I’ve never visited a datacenter that wasn’t SOC2 compliant. Bahnhof, SAVVIS, Telecity, Equinox etc.

Of course, their SOC 2 compliance doesn't mean we are absolved of securing our databases and services.

Theres a big gap between throwing some compute in a closet and having someone “run the closet” for you.

There is, a significantly larger gap between having someone “run the closet” and building your own datacenter from scratch.


A datacenter being soc2 compliant doesn’t mean any of your systems are. Same with pci. Same with hipaa. Cloud providers usually have offerings that help meet those requirements as well, but again, you can host bare metal, colo, cloud, or a tower under your bed, their compliance doesn’t do anything to cover your compliance.


Yes, quite right, that’s what I meant with my “I still have to do the work of securing my services”.

Would be the same no matter where I’m hosted.

Going to guess you meant to reply to the parent though?


They do cover your physical security requirements, which is still important.


You're describing stuff the colo provider does. I have no plans to describe how to setup a colo provider. I've never done that, and haven't seen the need. The cost of colo is not that significant.




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