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For context, this is presumably the Tobin who caused significant tangible damage to the Pale Moon project on his way out.

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=28265




For additional context it might be wise to include links that can't be edited by the author or webmaster.. While I didn't include links looking BinOC up on the IA isn't difficult to do and I am sure if you want to read the posts of events AS they happened you can look up the other thread.

This cited version is the revised version. Moonchild has revised his version of events multiple times in the nine months after. Pfft that isn't even the latest version lol. There are many now hidden threads on the Pale Moon forum that also showed events as they happened or as told when they happened.. All gone now.. Some of them contradict the later retellings.. I simply refer to events as they happened at the time and the Interlink release notes summery there of.

Can't wait to see if it changes anything...


Honestly, I couldn't care less. It's one man shouting against another, it's pointless to try finding facts out of that.

But as a simple Pale Moon user, I can say you caused a big enough disruption to the project that even a user who doesn't really pay attention also noticed.

Now you're here again sidetracking the subject at hand with past dramallamas and seemingly getting your pantaloons moist at having stories besides your own also provided. No thanks.


You started this shit by bringing up the past dude. If this story is gonna rise to a broader appeal it would be fuckin bullshit for it to die because oh it's just Pale Moon and/or SeaMonkey.

Cloudflare staff have a real hateboner for non-mainstream browsers and tell yourself what you like but I still actually care about the well being of this unmitigated disaster we call the Internet and the "Open Web".. Not to mention the lives and well being of users and contributors out there in the world..

Go be small minded on the Pale Moon forum, I'm busy.


You started it first, my dude:

>This is Tobin.. but without the Paradigm.

>Now no one hates that furry bastard more than me (and I challenge you to try)

>I know my fate for trying.. how many will join me knowing that?


Yeah except that's not the way it happened. My crimes are taking my ball and going home after being all but forced out for the second time just weeks after my father passed away from cancer and 2 months after I moved across the country.

It isn't like half the Pale Moon userbase ever wanted me there to begin with despite giving them not just an Add-ons Site and a developer wiki/doc site, the Pale Moon for Linux website, but a fully functional XUL platform that survives my involvement and a Pale Moon that is STILL Pale Moon when Moonchild as early as Pale Moon 27 was going to go the cyberfox route of Australis with CTR. So context of a decade of selfless unpaid work of 10-16 hour days every day, forum drama, bad decisions and behavior on my part in response to the response of my selfless work, and relentless attacks such as these no matter if I pop my head out or not?

If you want the full story of the end look it up on Kiwifarms (This was all before them being removed from clearnet so before the stuff you are thinking of) where I was maneuvered towards by 4chan anon people because that was the ONLY venue I had afterwards. For some reason they engaged then moved on.. Left me intact. I don't know why. But it is all there.. A cleaner version is codified in Interlink release notes on the internet archive. I encourage you to learn what actually happened and when and then make your judgement.. If you do that I will accept it even if I disagree with it because I disagree with a lot about my self these days.

Doesn't matter anyway. There are much larger issues now in the world than years old drama that still in the end.. Created the Unified XUL Platform (Take 2, the one that worked) and helps give hope to those otherwise subsumbed by the monoculture. Not that Pale Moon culture is much better but the fact it persists means more than one thing can. I can do better.. and so can we all.. Let's do that while we still can.

-nsITobin




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