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> Two names, two ids, two countries????

Yup. Quite common with kids with one parent from a country using, say, the roman characters and another from an asian country (like say a France / Japanese mixed kid). If the (french) father goes to the french embassy or to France to declare the kid under one name and then the (japanese) mom goes to declare the kid with a japanese name, the kid literally has two identities. Not just two passports (which is highly common) but two identities.

In less common case it can happen with just the given name being different in two countries: I know a dude who as a Portuguese given name on his Portuguese passport and the french version of that name on his french passport. They're considered by the authorities to be two different persons and he already got into trouble (administrative stuff) so now he's careful.

Also note that it's a documented fact that for fraud there have been people caught declaring a kid that wasn't their: kid born at the hospital, quickly "rent" the kid to friends from the community, declare the kid as if he was born at home (by having a doctor come). Profit from welfare (in the EU) money due to the fact that you now "have" one more kid. One such case was uncovered when the doctor who gave birth to the kid was then sent later in the day to witness a "born at home" kid.

I'm sure there are other cases: the world is big.




Just FYI in English doctors don’t give birth to other people’s kids.


More specifically, for the verb “give birth to”, the mother is the direct object and their new born child is the indirect object. The verb “deliver” can have the doctor or midwife or so on as the direct object.

I am bringing this up because I had to read your comment several times before I realized it was a comment about language use rather than about the role of doctors in England.

Finally, to be completely pandemic, doctors can give birth to other people‘s kids. My wife, a doctor, gave birth to my sons; there was another doctor there who delivered them.


I believe you meant "pedantic" rather than "pandemic".




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