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I hate it when people get angry about this exact term of phrase. This is the legal definition of how user generated content works. What they're really saying is "if you upload anything to us, we're allowed to distribute it either back to you, or to other people". Yet another case of false panic.



Can you please cite the part that you think corresponds to what you claim?

To me the words

> When you upload or input information through Firefox

Indicate this is not only about uploading to them, but also just using Firefox to upload anything to somewhere.


The terms do not mention being limited to uploading stuff to Mozilla.


Exactly, I agree. In fact they declare : "You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet.

When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."

They reserve the right to use every bit of information we type into the browser, which is pretty scary. It means they read and collect every bit of information we input in the browser ... think for example the text we input in a webmail app or in a home banking app ...

Time to switch to LibreWolf and Mullvad Browser.


> It means they read and collect every bit of information we input in the browser

It does not mean that.

It means some lawyer is concerned that Mozilla is in possession of some kind of data that is subject to other regulatory claims in some country.

This could easily be trivial, benign, or wrong.

I'll be shocked if a clarification/correction is not issued within 24 hours.

And I'll be shocked if some portion of HN doesn't argue that the clarification is a coverup and now that we've seen the real Mozilla we can never trust them again and we should all use Chrome because if we're going to get eaten we should all be eaten by the same monster.


"When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."

Why should I give them the right to read the input I type or the upload I submit through Firefox (for example to a private web application) and use it to help me to do what exactly ?

They want collect the data we insert (private and personal) and sell them to the advertisers or to AI engines.


> It means some lawyer is concerned that Mozilla is in possession of some kind of data that is subject to other regulatory claims in some country.

Well ... they posses our data indeed ? And what ? The passwords should be encrypted and not available to them, Pocket is only a collection of links ... our bookmarks ? If they posses some other data it means they act as a middle man between the keyboard and the site we are visiting ...


If people are misinterpreting mozilla's legalese, that is mozilla's fault for making these terms vague, broad and easy to misinterpret. Also i am not convinced your interpretation is correct.

Mozilla Firefox didn't have a 'Terms of Use' for 20 years. Why now?

Its quite clear they're seeking to expand their rights over their users data with their new privacy policy while simultaneously reducing user rights with this new 'Terms of Use'. i.e. Enshitification




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