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rethinking your comment "was that all" I am listening to the stream now and had a thought. Most of the new models that have come out in the past few weeks have been great at coding and logical reasoning. But 4o has been better at creative writing. I am wondering if 4.5 is going to be even better at creative writing than 4o.



if you generate "creative" writing, please tell your audience that it is generated, before asking them to read it.

I do not understand what possible motivation there could be for generating "creative writing" unless you enjoy reading meaningless stories yourself, in which case, be my guest.


I still find all of them lacking on creative writing. The models are severely crippled by tokenization, complete lack of understanding of language rhythm.

They can’t generate a simple haiku consistently, something larger is more out of reach.

For example, give it a piece of poetry and ask for new verses and it just sucks at replicating the language structure and rhythm of original verses.


I might sound crazy but honestly fine-tuned GPT-3 absolutely blows all of these modern models out of the water when it comes to creative writing.

Maybe it was less lobotomized, or less covered in the prompt equivalent of red tape. Or maybe you just need to have a little bit of lunacy for fun creative writing. The new models are so much more useful, but IMO they don’t have even come close to GPT-3.


Do you have an example prompt? I've been trying to get ChatGPT to tell a customized children's story similar to what you would see in a commercial story book but it just keeps giving me what's basically a summary of what you might read about in the book.


> But 4o has been better at creative writing

In what way? I find the opposite, 4o's output has a very strong AI vibe, much moreso than competitors like Claude and Gemini. You can immediately tell, and instructing it to write differently (except for obvious caricatures like "Write like Gen Z") doesn't seem to help.




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