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Good!!! I just finished porting my number off of T-Mobile since I canceled my service with them mid-Superbowl when I learned they were collaborating with StarLink; I don't want to support a man advocating for my erasure because he's mad at his daughter for disowning him. I made it explicitly clear why I was cancelling, citing Elon and StarLink by name.

Glad to see others participating in the "free" market and "voting with our wallets" before that ends up being the only way we can vote. Even more glad Slim is costing him billions compared to my pennies.




It would be amazing if Elon became recognized as the toxic figure that he is, and that had real economic impact on his companies.


I do wonder though, when I see so many famous people on Joe Rogan, for example, if the world isn't pass that somehow. Remember Neil Young as the absolutely solitary voice trying to pressure Spotify? It doesn't matter if you think Rogan should be boycotted; there are people that clearly should be doing it, to be honest with their own values, but aren't.

Edit: small correction.


Since Trump started his term, Rogan has fallen from the top podcast in the charts to number two with a 32% drop in downloads over the past month. I guess its something?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgd9v3r69qo

> Shares in electric car maker Tesla have slumped more than 9% after EU and UK sales fell by almost half in January.


That _may_ be happening, with fairly dramatic Tesla sales declines in Europe, though that also might just be competition.


Well, there's a lot in the news today about the FAA cancelling a 2.4 billion dollar contract with Verizon and awarding it to Starlink.

So look like Musk may have gotten a good deal with the couple hundred million he spent to help get Trump elected.


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Lots of people wish for the failures of profitable businesses. The sooner the better for us to be off oil the better for the planet. The slave trade employed many people and was extremely profitable. There's no reason to care about Starlink being successful.


Why not? The entire point of market economics is to make that not a problem and leave room for other potentially better companies to take the place of worse ones. He obviously is a negative influence for the business as a whole even if he stayed out of politics, just the fact that he tries to pull so much money/value out of those businesses for personal gain has a negative effect on how efficient and beneficial to consumers those businesses can be.


Yes, I do. More important than tech and jobs is that we keep too much power from accumulating in any one persons hands.


> In 1938, Ford was awarded Nazi Germany's Grand Cross of the German Eagle, a medal given to foreigners sympathetic to Nazism

~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#Honors_and_recognit...

By US standards, Musk is pretty good. And I doubt there'll be any economic consequences for him no matter what ideologies he holds. The literal next line on Wikipedia is "The United States Postal Service honored Ford with a Prominent Americans series (1965–1978) 12¢ postage stamp".


I'm not going to research historical Nazi's to try and what, understand???, why current day nazi's aren't so bad. Fuck all Nazi's.


Actually before WW2 many Americans were somewhat sympathetic to the Nazis; Hitler didn't seem so bad until he started invading other countries and stepped up his persecution of the Jews and Roma in 1938. Other recipients of that award were Charles Lindburgh and the chairman of IBM.


Curious about what this is about. I don't pay very close attention to the news cycle.


I assume they are referring to this partnership:

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/t-mobile-starlink-beta...

"T-Mobile (NASDAQ: TMUS) introduced the next big thing in wireless — T-Mobile Starlink — to tens of millions of football fans. Now in public beta, this breakthrough service, developed in partnership with Starlink [...]"


I got that part. It was the "wants to eliminate my people" part I'm missing. Is Musk talking genocide?



Ah, yeah, he's making the 'this is mental illness' argument that has been a mainstay in psychology for the last century or so.

Mainstream acceptance was slow up until the last 10 years or so.

I doubt he'll succeed in his efforts. I don't think he cares as much as the people he's targeting care.


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I have yet to meet a person who regrets having successfully weaned themselves off the news-cycle dopamine treadmill. If anything, I find that they tend to be better informed and more thoughtful than they were when they wasted cycles on the carnival.

Might just be me though.


Well that's a bit of conceptual selection bias, isn't it? Good for their mental health, but you cannot regret something if you don't know what you're missing.

There must have been 1930s Europeans who checked out of all those news about Hitler, after all. Must have been much better for their peace of mind, until one day suddenly it wasn't.


The rise of Hitler was noticed and minimized by even the most plugged-in governments and leaders. The UK was led by a chap who thought he could mollify him by just giving him parts of Central Europe. You can call Chamberlain many names but "uninformed" isn't one.

I like the description earlier in the thread of "the carnival". You can leave at any time and your life and dopamine will be the better for it.


The thing is the Nazi's didn't come out of nowhere.

If you check the news once a week or once a minute you'll still notice them.


lol. Because I’m sure all the news was posting anything critical about the nazi party at all. Look at now the vast majority of the mainstream news handled Covid. Absolutely zero intellectual curiosity or actual honest insight and 100% pure grade-a government propaganda. Not even a shred of actual investigation or thought. They were nothing more than a mouthpiece for whatever nonsense the government spewed out.


While I encourage everyone to opt out of the sensationalized news cycle and prioritize their own mental health, people who aren't paying attention aren't better informed, because the news is actively being censored by their billionaire owners, so it takes a lot of effort to be fully informed, and no, remembering a few things they heard off of Joe Rogan doesn't make them well informed.


Ea-nāṣir sold me poor-quality copper. I need high-quality copper. Therefore, I will buy loads of copper from Ea-nāṣir, and sift through it until I find high-quality copper.


The copper market sold me copper, some of which was low quality, some of which was high quality. But instead of continuing to shop at the whole market and developing any sense of what is quality, I've decided to go exclusively to Joe's Best Copper. He tells me his stuff is the best. I don't go to anyone else now so I have no way of comparing it to anything else. Anyway, there's no possible way he could be lying to me, I'm way too smart for than.


Nope. It’s the best decision you’ll ever make. It’s pure propaganda that has absolutely no positive impact at all.


So many here are in agreement that queer erasure is occurring you're saying that being informed about it happening can have no positive impact at all? How should we fight against something if we ignore that it is even happening?


Have you seen this discussed in the news? I haven't.


> a man advocating for my erasure

What do you mean?


Maybe OP is trans


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What are you even talking about? Trying to rule that trans people don't exist and kick them out of every space possible is one of the biggest efforts of Trump's first month.


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Politics, I know, but: I guess he just missed the part where Slim is dismantling his country for profit. Oh yeah and literally a Nazi.


>dismantling his country for profit

Wow, that certainly sounds familiar.


These seem like more reasons to celebrate the end of a partnership between two oligarchs. May it cost them both money in the end.


Profoundly inverted sense of morality. Don’t know what can be done about it.


elon lost a contract. At this point most people consider that a good thing, since he is trying to sow chaos in the US government for little to no benefit to the US or anywhere else except his wallet. And he is enabling the little dictator.

That doesn't mean you support the person who pulled the contract.

You can scream MDS all you want. Most people are done with the meme garbage.


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Top shelf question-begging there, counselor.


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Civil servants don't vote for the party that constantly lies about and shits on them? Astonishing.

Nor was I aware that the ABA was part of the government. It's this sort of high quality analysis that keeps me coming back to HN.


Thinking that everyone in a federal job or benefitting from those big bad grants are all in one party is some massive ignorance that takes a lot of brainwashing on right wing media to accomplish. They won't understand until it affects someone they know. By then musk will have diverted a lot of spending to his own companies with the doge fraud.


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not sure why you read "irrational ragequit" into it. Calmly telling the CSA, who may or may not be in the Philippines, what to note down as cancellation reason: Other - Elon Musk, gets stuffed into a database and then bubbles up in internal reports on a pie chart of reasons so if enough other people also cite that reason, it becomes seen.


This is why, OP said mid-superBowl:

> T-Mobile since I canceled my service with them mid-Superbowl when I learned they were collaborating with StarLink

That implies spur of the moment, emotional response.

You are watching the Super Bowl one minute, you see a commercial for T-Mobile, then immediately call to cancel your service in anger? If it happened at all - you must port before cancelling, or lose the number


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They're gonna come for me anyway. Better than my communications going through his network. Maybe if enough people cite his behavior when cancelling T-Mobile will back off working with him, and he'll lose even more money.




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