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The killing won't stop until Russia is firmly stopped. There is no peace without completely and permanently pacifying Russia. They will attack again and again until we render them unable to continue. The best time to do this is thirty years ago, the second best time is now.



Who is "we"? Are you a soldier in Ukraine? More death is not going to help and neither side will stop. The only chance to stop killing is an agreement.


More death wouldn't, but a solid established and supported promise of retaliation in case of aggression from either side would.

And "we" here means the democratic world - solidarity is the only way to deter bullies - if Russia knew that EU/US would retaliate in case of an attack on Ukraine, they wouldn't invade.

But of course if you yourself is a bully, you will do everything in your power to cause feuds. And here we are, oh well.


I know lots of Ukrainians. They all know that life under this sort of "agreement," which is actually Ukraine paying reparations for a war it didn't start, for zero security guarantees, was beyond moronic. It wasn't an agreement it was mere capitulation to Russia to continue genocide.

Actual real Ukrainians are fighting, and signing back up even after being injured.

Ukraine is on "death ground" and has nowhere to go except to fight to survive. Ukrainians know that. Russia knows that. I'm not sure that those that spout Russian propaganda know that, and for example I doubt you know any Ukrainians with questions like yours, but you sure do sound like the Russian propaganda lines that get trotted out to Americans.


And everything you say or hear is propaganda, see how useless Ad hominem are?

Maybe I am subject to propaganda and you aren't, either way I'm on the side of peace. You are on the side of war and death. I'll take the propaganda.


That's what they thought about appeasing Hitler - why would peace talks stop Putin from taking even more territory? It wouldn't and it wont.




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