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I appreciate the response! However it looks like I didn't explain the point clearly. I'll try again. (sorry, this is going to be kind of long...)

The problem isn't profanity and the solution isn't sanitization. Rather, the problem is crossing into pejoratives and/or name-calling and/or being aggressive to other commenters. And the solution is to edit all that out.

When you make edits like these:

WTF are you talking about? -> What in the heck are you on about?

get the fuck out of here -> get that terrible characterization out of here

You are pissing on anyone -> You are denigrating anyone

... you've sanitized the profanity, but your comment is still pejorative and swipey in the way the site guidelines are asking you (not you personally, of course! I mean all of us) to avoid.

Also, I totally missed this in the original post—this is another one:

> you should be ashamed. You need to do better.

The way to follow the site guidelines is to edit out swipes and take out pejoratives (especially personal ones). There are lots of ways to do that, but in case it's helpful, here's one:

  "I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that will end the destruction in your country" was what our VP said to kick off the spat.

  "High-pressure bargaining tactics" is not accurate. Zelensky didn't kiss the ring and our representatives reacted angrily when he corrected them gently on the actual history of diplomacy in that region since 2014.

  That is extortive, not appropriate American diplomacy.
I don't mean to tell you how to edit your own post! I just thought a concrete example might be helpful. In any case, if you'd posted that or anything similar, I wouldn't have responded with a mod reply.

A nice side effect of doing this kind of editing is that it makes your comments more persuasive, by both polishing and sharpening your argument.




I'll go through the guidelines again, obviously I hadn't yet since my edits. Your house, your rules and I'll try to make sure to depersonalize my displeasure in the future.

Thanks for the example, I appreciate it!


The good news: depersonalizing is more than half of the challenge. The bad news: it's way easier to come across as personally pejorative than one imagines. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...)

In any case, thanks for hearing me out with such patience—if it were always this easy, I'd...have more free time!




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