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You think Germany and France are invested in defending Ukraine when the US isn’t doing the heavy lifting?



Who absorbed 5 million Ukrainian refugees? Europe, not the US. (Even Canada took more). And there could be millions more yet depending on the ceasefire/settlement arrangement.

Who paid € billions more in energy costs since 2022? Europe, not the US. [0][1] Germany in particular got crucified, and its manufacturing base fled to China (also in part due to the German Greens' historic Cold-War opposition to nuclear, nut that's a long story).

[0]: https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/02/24/three-years-on-...

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/eu-spends-more...


Heavy lifting like sending 31 tanks while putin had 10000?


The US hasn't been doing the heavy lifting. It's been Europe.

They were doing the bare minimum under Biden, and are now actively helping Putin.


How is the US helping Putin?


All I'm saying is that Hungary means jack shit, they have no money, no strategic industry, no proper army


Funding Ukraine is not the "heavy lifting". The heavy lifting is when Putin invades Finland after taking Ukraine, and Germany and France are forced to respond militarily against a Russia aligned with the US.




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