> Firstly, that is not fascism and I do wish people would stop misusing that word.
It is facism. The treatment alone of the trans community is enough to earn it that title. If you want to make an argument from your book then please do so but linking to it alone is not an argument.
> Are you referring to the Guatanamo Bay detention camp?
Are you deciding to pick and choose from the list I gave you? The Nazi salutes mean nothing?
I'm referring to the directive to house 30,000 people there, up from a current population of zero. Coupled with dehumanising language like "illegals," the "delegation of immigration authority" to untrained officers, and the careless attitude to false positives make these developments very much incomparable to anything that's gone before (at least outside of places like Nazi Germany). Do ask yourself as well how easily the use of these facilities can be broadened in the future once there there to house other types of "illegals."
They are already ignoring the courts [0]. What the Executive Order does "legally" does not matter to someone who claims "he who serves his country breaks no law." The only thing that matters is intention. You're thinking about this from a legalist perspective but those days are gone.
> If you want to make an argument from your book then please do so but linking to it alone is not an argument.
From[1]:
> "The Doctrine of Fascism" (Italian: "La dottrina del fascismo") is an essay attributed to Benito Mussolini. In truth, the first part of the essay, entitled "Idee Fondamentali" (Italian for 'Fundamental Ideas'), was written by the Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile, while only the second part "Dottrina politica e sociale" (Italian for 'Political and social doctrine') is the work of Mussolini himself.
Please, ignorance is natural, but brazen and wilful ignorance in support of an argument based on nothing but pejorative and performative tribalism is something for Twitter or Reddit, not here. If it were Twitter I’d definitely add a facepalm emoji instead of babying you through this.
> The Nazi salutes mean nothing?
If we’re referring to Musk then I must say that I don’t agree that it was a Nazi salute. In my country, we grew up with the war as a constant cultural reference so I’ve seen thousands of Nazi salutes, I’ve never seen one like that. Wishful thinking for more fodder for those performative pejoratives does not a Nazi salute make.
> The only thing that matters is intention.
Let me know when you do the Show HN for your mind reading device.
I know what the book is, but I need more than the title and the author to take an argument from it. Generally with references like this people will point to a page number or offer a summary of what they feel are the relevant parts
Yes, I'm referring to the Nazi salutes he gave. I can't help you see what you refuse to see right in front of you. Even Hitler gave it that way. I grew up in an apartheid conflict zone and have seen this othering before so let's not get into appeals to authority based on our backgrounds.
Calling me a baby is not an argument and I'm not sure that saying "I would totally emoji you but I'm too mature for that" is actually indicative of the maturity you're claiming. I want to point out as well that the tone of the conversation was set by yourself when you started it all with misogynistic accusations of hysteria.
1) Hysteria is a human emotion, not exclusive to females. To imply that it is certainly verges on misogyny.
2) If you knew what the Doctrine of Fascism was then you wouldn’t respond as you did. It contains the definition of fascism by the two figures that brought it to fame, one of whom was called “the godfather of fascism”.
3) Hitler did not salute that way and Musk did not make a Nazi salute.
4) I didn’t call you a baby, but I am having to baby you through basic knowledge. “To baby” is a verb, not an adjective.
5) I would use the facepalm emoji if this were Twitter. Have you noticed it’s not? Misquoting other users is not for HN.
It is facism. The treatment alone of the trans community is enough to earn it that title. If you want to make an argument from your book then please do so but linking to it alone is not an argument.
> Are you referring to the Guatanamo Bay detention camp?
Are you deciding to pick and choose from the list I gave you? The Nazi salutes mean nothing?
I'm referring to the directive to house 30,000 people there, up from a current population of zero. Coupled with dehumanising language like "illegals," the "delegation of immigration authority" to untrained officers, and the careless attitude to false positives make these developments very much incomparable to anything that's gone before (at least outside of places like Nazi Germany). Do ask yourself as well how easily the use of these facilities can be broadened in the future once there there to house other types of "illegals."
They are already ignoring the courts [0]. What the Executive Order does "legally" does not matter to someone who claims "he who serves his country breaks no law." The only thing that matters is intention. You're thinking about this from a legalist perspective but those days are gone.
0: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/10/nx-s1-5292342/trump-federal-f...