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Was there no functioning laser or radar altimeter for the final descent phase?



"However, the lander's altimeter had failed."


Looking at this closely, it was working, however it was noisy. I speculate that they didn't correctly anticipate the moon dust problem. Laser rangefinders may not be a workable solution for future landings.

     So engineers at Intuitive Machines had checked, and re-checked, the laser-based altimeters on Athena. When the lander got down within about 30 km of the lunar surface, they tested the rangefinders again. Worryingly, there was some noise in the readings as the laser bounced off the Moon. However, the engineers had reason to believe that, maybe, the readings would improve as the spacecraft got nearer to the surface.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/intuitive-machines-sec...

https://www.space.com/nasa-moon-landing-dust-concerns.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_horizon_glow


Noise at 30km altitude probably points more towards a sensor issue than dust.


May it be that laser bounced off exhaust plume?


Unless their processing is very weird, that shouldn’t be the issue.

You send a pulse and record the output of a detector to listen for the reflection. If the laser is reflected at the plume, you should get some pulses very quickly, but also faint and spread out in time, which you would be able to tune out. And the real response from the ground should be more narrow because it’s reflecting at a single distance.

If very short range noise influences the signal when measuring 30km real distance, you’re doing something wrong.


Laser is angled outwards at approx 45 degrees, I think it's well away from the exhaust plume.


I think it would be unlikely that a plume was caused from 30km away on something with no atmosphere.


LRFs and radars on the Moon has been fine for a long time, it can also be angled away from gravity axis and multiplied by sine theta if needed.




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