Please try to make HN comments more like a freaking Brookings Institute report instead of more like /b/ on 4chan. Doing the opposite fosters the kind of environment you claim to want to avoid, where people call you names instead of rebutting your claims with evidence.

I'd agree with you except I didn't direct it at anyone. If I had called someone a bitch that would be different and your complaint would make sense.

It's still an internet forum. It can be high-quality while people still use a colloquialism or two.

Insane because almost none of this is based on reality and as another commenter said is just US imperialist propaganda. Literally hyper concerned with dominance and zero sum winner take all logic aka fascist. Using sexual terms to illicit an emotional response as if China is RAPING us by not giving us everything for nothing(a bitch)? again a fascist style of logic that the ONLY outcome is SOMEONE being the bitch ...

You talk about going back to era of enforced IP as if it isn't the USA that has led to the modern draconian farce of IP .... The golden age of the US growth was when we had a similar disregard for such silly concepts... Or ignoring the fact the vast majority of the US industry base was built on "stolen" British IP?

Jingoist because you are obsessed with war and violence and making things/people"bitches" thru petty dominance rather than leading by excellence as the US has some in the past.

So to summarize

Insane because lack of connection to reality and history and actual geopolitics beyond usa supremacism.

Jingoist because immediate reaction to war/violence/domination/humiliation of enemies etc .

You're making more unsubstantiated accusations and saying I'm a propagandist, a fascist, blah blah. What is your support for this?

I am concerned with dominance because I don't trust china to hold a military advantage and not abuse it against my people. I expect multiple other countries feel this way, which is fine. All of us will probably jockey for position and I'm arguing we should focus all our resources behind maintaining ours.

Kind of insane that you think because of this I'm a fascist. I'd struggle to think of a credible definition of fascism, even one with which I disagree, that encompasses this. Can you clarify as to whether you're referring fascism as in the definition and political system or in the sense of "orange man is a fascist"?

I specifically talked about disregarding china's IP in response to her disregarding ours. I think we may be in violent disagreement on this point. I didn't say we should go bomb beijing to protect American patents, I said we should cheerfully rip hers off in return. From what you're saying, you believe this would be a good thing and help American growth; I agree.

Obsession with war isn't precisely a good definition of jingoism; regardless, I'm not. I'd very much like to avoid war. As Clausewitz put it, war is an extension of policy by other means. My concern is that we lose most of our non-military means - trade, diplomacy, etc. - due to economic and industrial weakness and insecurity, thus leaving only one open for important issues. I wish to avoid war and pursue peace through strength.

I said nothing about humiliation etc. of enemies. You're reading that into something I said, not sure why.

I'm not really going to engage anymore. The support is self evident in your own statements and it's obvious you just want to play bad faith games.

If you don't see how becoming or making "bitches" is not related to humiliation I'm not going to bother.

If you dont think "the orange man" is a fascist, then any further peaceable discussion is a waste of time. See you in the field

Fascism: characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.