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But all the armchair business experts assured me that the value of Twitter had completely tanked since Elon bought it because he’s such a stupid fool who ruins everything, so shouldn’t it be worth less? Just a few months ago everyone was confident it was only worth $8 billion.

He valued it at the same price minus debt.




He bought it with stock from another company that has no clear value and is a meaningless hype monster. What is xai going to do that 10 other AI companies aren't going to build, anthropic, openai, etc.


Theoretically the synergy with Twitter could be fantastic in terms of potential value added, if I’m trying to be down to earth. The others have no real foothold in the real world beyond their own services, and users may flock away as AI integrated into their favorite apps etc. become good enough.


You might want to read about a little company called Meta, who possess the same advantage, but larger.


What synergy exactly? Selling Twitter bots?


The sibling examples where good as well, but I think missing a major one: Consumer access. xAI can just merge their chat bot into the X/Twitter app, and suddenly they have a couple hundred million users on this thing. In a commoditised market, distribution is everything.

Also seems to fit with Musk's vision of turning Twitter into some kind of US WeChat, an app people do a bunch of stuff in. Using LLMs to do a bunch of stuff seems to be the way the hype is going right now.

I don't know if I see long term value here, but I can't say I don't see the story.


You can’t think of a single synergistic thing? Seriously?

Automating some administrative tasks? Gauging sentiment across swathes of the population on a given topic? Providing stuff like the “reader context” but attempt to pre-empt it so better info is shared to begin with? And yeah, probably lots of Twitter bots for different things. Provide automated customer support for companies on there, or help people find products relevant to what they’re discussing/browsing etc.

There are literally a million options; I find it hard to believe you couldn’t think of one


Sir or madam, if you are defending the value of xai then I think it's incumbent on you to suggest the synergistic or other value creating aspects of xai, when other people are doubting it. Many other of these types of systems are doing these same things like creating software to do administrative tasks, summarizing the gist of an article or a series of comments. Those are the most basic things that all of the other systems are doing also.


It’s not my job to think for you, it’s your job to do that. He asked a really low-quality question. It’s like when the fresh-grad dev tells you he can’t figure out his ticket.

…okay? Did you read it? Was there enough info? Where did you get confused? I’m happy to provide clarification, but if he stopped so quickly he couldn’t think of a single way that a social media platform could leverage in-house AI (or vice-versa) and the power that would come from (still, somehow) being one of the foremost social media sites on the planet, then it’s not the time to ask questions, it’s the time to think a bit more.


> automating some administrative tasks?

on x? like... for marketers? do we really need ai to schedule tweets or auto-reply with “thanks for the follow”? feels like we’ve had that stuff for a decade already. just because it’s ai now doesn’t make it new or useful.

> gauging sentiment across swathes of the population on a given topic?

you mean gauging sentiment from a user base that’s gotten increasingly loud, extreme, and way less representative of the general public? that’s not insight, that’s just noise with extra steps.

> providing stuff like the “reader context” but attempt to pre-empt it so better info is shared to begin with?

in theory, sure. but that’s assuming the platform actually cares about curating good info and not just maximizing engagement. reader context is cool when it works, but it’s super inconsistent and often buried. ai preemptively “fixing” info sounds nice until you remember who’s training it and what incentives are driving it.

> twitter bots for different things / automated customer support / product recommendations etc.

yeah i mean, bots have been a thing on twitter forever—some useful, most annoying. ai-powered ones could be better, but the platform’s current vibe isn’t exactly welcoming for brands trying to do legit support or sales. good luck pitching your socks in a thread full of people arguing about conspiracy theories.


What are OpenAI, anthropic, going to do that xAI isn’t? By that logic if there is more than one company in any field they’re all worthless.


I've got a water bottle, I'm going to sell it to myself for $1 billion dollars.

I now own a $1 billion dollar water bottle


The value of something only matters if there's a market for it, and people can bid on it. Musk just made up a number he liked and said it out loud.


He valued it as the price he made another company value it.

Do you understand where money comes from, cause Elon and you seem to not understand.


How much of these evaluation is based on Musk‘s influence on Trump?




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