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That’s not a business model, it’s a pipe dream.

This bubble will be burst by the Trump tariffs and the end of the zirp era. When inflation and a recession hit together hope and dream business models and valuations no longer work.




Which one? Nvidia are doing pretty ok selling GPU's, and OpenAI and Anthropic are doing ok selling their models. They're not _viable_ business models, but they could be.


NVDA will crash when the AI bubble implodes, and none of those Generative AI companies are actually making money, nor will they. They have already hit limiting returns in LLM improvements after staggering investments and it is clear are nowhere near general intelligence.


All of this can be true, and has nothing to do with them having a business model.

> NVDA will crash when the AI bubble implodes, > making money, nor will they > They have already hit limiting returns in LLM improvements after staggering investments > and it is clear are nowhere near general intelligence.

These are all assumptions and opinions, and have nothing to do with whether or not they have a business model. You mightn't like their business model, but they do have one.


I consider it a business model if they have plans to make money at some point (no sign of that at openai which are not based on hopium) and are not engaged in fraud like bundling and selling to their own subsidiaries (nvda).

These are of course just opinions, I’m not sure we can know facts about such companies except in retrospect.


Yep. Facts are usually found out during the SEC investigation but we know that isn't going to happen now...


They are doing OK in the sense that they are spending a dollar to earn a dime I suppose.


The ZIRP era ended several years ago.


Yes it did, but the irrational exuberance was ongoing till this trigger.

Now we get to see if Bitcoin’s use value of 0 is really supporting 1.5 trillion market cap and if OpenAI is really worth $300 billion.

I mean softbank just invested in openai, and they’ve never been wrong, right?




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