1. Jobs.

2. Profits.

3. Refined products can be exported to countries that don't have refinement capabilities. Not just the US and China. This gives Canada better trade leverage.

4. Security. A big one that's emerged in the last few weeks.

I don't see either Poilievre or Carney talking about this which is disappointing but not unexpected.

Do you not believe in the theory of competitive advantage? The tradeoff is higher prices, do you think that doesn't matter?

What is the competitive advantage here? That refinement exists in the United States and not Canada? That was a political choice made by Canadian politicians.