> I dont know anyone whos mad at him over Ukraine either, thats extremely minor.

I know a lot of people that are mad at him over that, it's extremely major.

Of course I am happily criticising pope from back seat, this thread is literally to discuss him as a public figure.

Already said that conservative and liberal are English words not necessarily connected to US political scene. I know plenty of people initially supportive of him who got seriously pissed when he broke the long standing tradition of supporting the attacked, not the attacker.

I would argue it’s a pretty common position in Europe.