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Build it, please. The lack of affordable EVs in the US is depressing.



Have you seen the used Tesla market lately?


Yeah, but have you seen the Tesla repair parts prices?

Buying a used car presupposes the ability to service it.


Prices are great on used 3/Y, but no one is offering an affordable pickup yet.


how much of the original range do they retain? you have to consider the price a new tesla battery (between $12,000 and $15,000)


https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-d...

I bet they have more than half the original range, so I don't have to consider a new battery at all.


tesla inflates their range estimates until the battery is half empty:

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba...

Idle draw/phantom drain of 5-10% a day seems like a common complaint with Teslas as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43314781

I personally don't want to be left holding the bag on a used battery since I like the option traveling long distance without stopping, but obviously it's your choice.


> tesla inflates their range estimates until the battery is half empty

Yes, but I don't think it's enough to affect this comparison.

> I personally don't want to be left holding the bag on a used battery since I like the option traveling long distance without stopping, but obviously it's your choice.

The point is we're comparing against a car that has 150 miles of range brand new, 120 or less by the time you'd replace its battery. A Tesla battery at 60% is still better.

> Idle draw/phantom drain of 5-10% a day seems like a common complaint with Teslas as wel

That's a more serious problem, among many others. I'm not advocating one way or the other, just focusing on range.


I have a Model 3, and phantom drain is virtually non-existent.

Like anything used, or new, what you'll get is random. In general, Tesla seems to have their batteries sorted out compared to other manufacturers, but you can be unlucky.

The accuracy of range varies a bit, like most cars. If you have your foot in it, you'll do worse, and if you drive efficiently you'll do better.




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