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The reason it is political for voting is that the rules needed to get a qualified ID are often impossible (or hard enough to suppress voting) for many legit voters.

These rules have become weaponized in a culture war, such as the requirement that an ID match the name on the birth record, meaning women whose last names changed during marriage require additional paperwork, often crossing state lines and in person visits. Bingo, disenfranchised a large population of women.

Personally I think voting should be mandatory as some countries have done, and verification should be easy.

Obviously you need documentation to work, and it’s fair to gather that documentation as early in the process as is reasonable (as in when an application is submitted)






> Obviously you need documentation to work

Elephant in the room, someone who can't produce photo ID to vote also can't produce it to work. So obviously you don't always need it to work (even if that's technically illegal). So long as the systemic issues remain I don't see an issue with that.

Actually come to think of it the low skill jobs I had when I was younger never asked for ID. Just my social, full legal name, and date of birth for their tax paperwork. Whereas the higher skill ones I had later demanded multiple forms of ID - I generally furnished them with both my passport and driver's license, which they took copies of and independently verified.

None of that is relevant for a high skill 100% remote job though. Not only does that demographic generally have easy access to ID, those rules really should be strictly enforced for remote positions since the internet is global.


Actually, that isn't the case with the SAVE act.

If I produce a social security card and any government ID, that is typically enough to work (in the US).

It won't be enough to vote under the proposed act. In many cases, what will be required is a birth certificate that exactly matches other ID. If your name has changed, unspecified documentation will be required beyond a marriage license or court approved name change. A government issued ID such as military or REAL ID will not suffice.


Well that is even more ridiculous. I have a passport but I think I've lost track of my birth certificate. My state ID isn't even REAL ID compliant (and I am very happy about that fact - it's blatant federal overreach that badly needs to be snubbed).

But the point remains - you often (in practice) don't need ID for low skill jobs whereas high skill ones generally carefully vet you. Thus hand wringing about requiring applicants for a high end fully remote tech job to fork over ID is a bit silly.


Well, that last doesn't bother me at all. If a person is doing something valuable, dilligence is due.

The blatant voter suppression efforts aiming at stopping a problem that results in less than a basis point of error in voting counts bothers me a lot, though.




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