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The biggest impact Generative Music had on my life was for wedding skits. Families that wanted a funny song about the bride filled with anecdotes didn't need talent anymore.

The first time I heard it, it was incredible. The 2nd wedding that did it, it started to feel boring. The 3rd time, everyone hated it.

Similar to image-generation, we're getting tired really fast of cookie-cutter art. I don't know how to feel about it.






AI art is like dreams. I'm amused by my own but never want to hear about anyone else's.

AI art is like a photoshop drawing. If it's done by someone who sucks, which are most users if the tool is accessible enough, you will just think "That's a bad photoshop drawing". You will recognize the standard tools, the standard brushes, bad masking – all the stuff that is easy to do and that everyone will do.

That's not a tool issue. It just means that working on a raised floor is not the same a being able to reach a higher ceiling.


I love this analogy.

Your real poetry on the other hand, pretty good!

> AI art is like dreams. I'm amused by my own but never want to hear about anyone else's.

I don't know. Scrolling the Sora image generations feed is pretty fun.

It's got trendy memes, lots of mashups, and cool art. They've also managed to capture social media outrage bait on the platform: conservatives vs. liberals, Christians vs. atheists, and a whole other host of divisive issues that are interspersed throughout the feed. I think they have a social media play in the bag if they pursue it.

It feels like Sora could replace Instagram.


Meta's already starting to fluff up their content with AI slop. How is it better when someone else does the same?

Honestly, this is the kind of anti-AI argument that makes me care. It also acknowledges just why those of us who like it are so passionate.

I enjoy playing with Suno as a toy to flesh out bits and pieces of creative ideas I have that I cannot complete at my current stage in life.

Weird, stupid things. Writing theme songs for TV shows that don't exist, finding ways to translate song types from culture A to culture B, BGM for a video game you want to make, a sales song for Shikoku 1889 to sell Iyo railway shares, etc...

Some of us have zero cultural influence and services like Suno mean we aren't listening to the original brainrot (popular music). Sure, you might create garbage but it's your garbage and you aren't stuck waiting for someone to throw you a bone.

I love Suno, it's a rare subscription that is fun.


I agree, you can make stupid ideas happen without having to make a huge investment in something you want to hear as a joke. There was a metal song I thought had lyrics that would also work as pop-country and I did quick cover of it on Suno to see if I was right.

I'm pretty sure that I actually could, if I really wanted to, create this cover legitimately and even put it on Spotify with royalties going to the original artists (it seems they have a blanket mechanical license for a lot of works). But it was a "gag" song that probably has a market of just me, so hiring a team of people would be a lot of time and money for 3 minutes of a giggle. I also would have to worry about things like if it's changed too much to be a cover and getting sued for putting in extra effort.


Distribution services like Distrokid, CDBaby, Tunecore etc will handle the mechanical license for covers. As long as you don't change the lyrics or melody, a cover will remain a cover, even if you change a genre from metal to country. The "derivative work" carveout is to protect people from changing the lyrics to e.g. something offensive and the original rights holder being unable to do anything about it.

That being said, your idea isn't original; there's already a flood of automated AI-generated cover songs being pushed onto Spotify, and they + distributors are (allegedly) starting to actively combat this.


My "idea" was to get human artists to record it, which is, yes, very unoriginal. I guess that was a bit ambiguous.

I've cousin who's a song writer who for a brief few hours was very excited with the silly poems she could get an AI to write, and she shared them with the family group. The first one or two were ok, but eventually several of us started pointing out how vacuous the poems seemed, and how sad that she -a great song writer in her own right- was excited about that generative AI crap. She stopped right quick.

I'll say that this "Suno" thing makes good-sounding music to these non-musician ears right here, but trying a few of these I'm starting to notice it seems fake. But that's not very interesting. What's interesting is that they're going to get good enough to get past the phoniness.

> I don't know how to feel about it.

I know how I feel about it: I don't like it one bit.


You say "she stopped right quick" as if telling someone the things they are talking about are vacuous, sad, and crap is supposed to lead to anything else (comments rightly deserved or not). Even when such comments are tempered in delivery it's still no more than a comment saying you said you didn't like it so they stopped involving you in it.

https://x.com/sama/status/1899535387435086115?lang=en-GB

It's personal taste, but this is significantly better than the last couple of fiction books I've read (which were both well reviewed).

I think it's good enough that it's hard to argue is emotionally vacuous, unless you define that to mean 'it was written by a machine'

I think increasing we'll find AIs are extremely good at emotional 'manipulation' (which I mean in the same sense has how a good tearjerker is in some sense emotionally manipulative).


Our daughter's kindergarten has their own generated hymn. The kids love it. In times the teachers rarely have musical skills it compensates for this.

I find it so weird that in this age of credentialism and unnecessary qualifications, most kindergarten teachers have no idea how to play the 3 chords on a ukelele which allow them to play basically every kids song and lead a singalong

Feel great: humans value creativity, and novelty.

It's probably just the lyrics, not the musical content. Popular music is mostly the same. It's clever lyrics and good meter that's more important imo. You can just dump something in from GPT or use Suno for it, but unless you spend some actual time on lyric composition, it will absolutely be campy as hell.

Suno songs also sound really poor from a technical perspective. The high end of the frequency spectrum is always very washy, reminiscent of the days of 128kbps mp3s. It sounds ok in isolation but it's very noticeable when it's thrown into a playlist of professionally mixed/mastered music.

I'm not a pro, but this seems different on the 4.5 model. It seems much crisper.

Yeah 4.5 definitely improves a lot, but I can still hear washiness in the high end. Probably not noticeable to most in isolation or poor audio devices like low-end phone speakers, but would be very noticeable on a good soundsystem in a playlist with professional songs.

It still doesn't capture meter or phrase structure well in classical songs, and there are a lot of weird artifacts. It's better than the old models, but there's still a long way to go.

> The high end of the frequency spectrum is always very washy, reminiscent of the days of 128kbps mp3s.

I have a feeling that’s by design. Firstly for computation purposes, secondly to avoid someone making a studio-quality deepfake song.


3 weddings in a couple months, lucky you!

thanks, early 30s are exhausting haha

I'm sure if you lied and told everyone that you hired someone to create the tune they would like it again.

I'm not.



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