Not entirely on topic but a relevant warning. Extasy is used nowadays as a rape drug. Be careful. I have had extasy three times in my life, none of them consensual -- every single time it was slipped into my drink. I described the symptoms to my psychiatrist and she said that it was extasy for sure. I am a middle aged man and not incredibly attractive. God knows what is happening to young sexy people.
So if you are having a drink somewhere and you suddenly unexpectedly get this really happy, warm and cozy feeling, as if everything is alright with the world, there is love everywhere and you just have to hug and kiss somebody, anybody .... well do not hug or kiss anybody. You may have just been drugged.
There is a very troubling lore about MDMA, in that it apparently it is not such a bad drug, etc. I don't know about this ... I do know that a lot of MDMA deaths happened at the extasy fueled raves that were popular in the 90s and the early 2000s. They say those deaths were from other causes ... I do not know if this is true, but I have a feeling that this mantra of "MDMA is not that bad it is all about love, etc. " has been taken up by would-be-rapists to convince themselves that what they are doing is not that bad. That MDMA is not really a rape drug like Rohypnol, so there is nothing wrong in slipping one into a person's drink.
Well they are wrong. It is a serious crime and it is attempted rape if intent is established.
I confronted one of the guys that slipped me MDMA. It is not difficult to guess who did it, they usually make sure they are close to you when you are having those "I need to hug and kiss someone, anyone" feelings. He essentially admitted it without saying it outright and started laughing. Thought it was a cute thing, like something out of a romantic comedy.
I wish I had proof to send all those f*ckers to jail but of course when you are happy on MDMA you do not think to save the evidence for the police. But next time I will. I have thought about this enough that next time I will recognize the symptoms and do what needs to be done regardless of how happy I am feeling.
If anyone cares, none of these events resulted in sexual assault, I am a very careful person and I do not easily give in to strange feelings.
Re: deaths, a lot of what is sold as "MDMA" is not MDMA at all, but MDA, meth, all sorts of wacky and poorly understood 2C-* analogs or, increasingly and incredibly dangerously, fentanyl.
Also, ecstasy is typically taken communally, in which case it's not a very effective rape drug since it decreases sex drive and causes temporary erectile dysfunction in many men.
Giving someone any kind of drug, even alcohol, against their consent is god freaking awful.
> at the extasy fueled raves that were popular in the 90s and the early 2000s. They say those deaths were from other causes
If you are at an illegal rave, maybe some hot squatted warehouse with no AC, you dance all night with no break, do ALOT and don't drink any water there is a good chance you collapse.
Wrong you disgusting pervert. You do not know me you have no right or ability to do psycho analysis to me.
Even if what you say is true and if ecstasy only “lowers your standards” then, by definition if someone makes you take it without knowing it is still an attempted rape. So you are defending rape, you disgusting pervert.
So if you are having a drink somewhere and you suddenly unexpectedly get this really happy, warm and cozy feeling, as if everything is alright with the world, there is love everywhere and you just have to hug and kiss somebody, anybody .... well do not hug or kiss anybody. You may have just been drugged.
There is a very troubling lore about MDMA, in that it apparently it is not such a bad drug, etc. I don't know about this ... I do know that a lot of MDMA deaths happened at the extasy fueled raves that were popular in the 90s and the early 2000s. They say those deaths were from other causes ... I do not know if this is true, but I have a feeling that this mantra of "MDMA is not that bad it is all about love, etc. " has been taken up by would-be-rapists to convince themselves that what they are doing is not that bad. That MDMA is not really a rape drug like Rohypnol, so there is nothing wrong in slipping one into a person's drink.
Well they are wrong. It is a serious crime and it is attempted rape if intent is established.
I confronted one of the guys that slipped me MDMA. It is not difficult to guess who did it, they usually make sure they are close to you when you are having those "I need to hug and kiss someone, anyone" feelings. He essentially admitted it without saying it outright and started laughing. Thought it was a cute thing, like something out of a romantic comedy.
I wish I had proof to send all those f*ckers to jail but of course when you are happy on MDMA you do not think to save the evidence for the police. But next time I will. I have thought about this enough that next time I will recognize the symptoms and do what needs to be done regardless of how happy I am feeling.
If anyone cares, none of these events resulted in sexual assault, I am a very careful person and I do not easily give in to strange feelings.