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This is frustrating. The Surface Pro has a 128 GB option and goes down from there to 64 GB. The Macbook Air has a 128 GB option and goes up from there to 512 GB.

Edit: this is factually incorrect. There is also a 64 GB MacBook Air model on offer; I forgot about it. I apologize.

~90 GB of free space on both 128 GB models seems reasonable. Stepping down to just ~26 GB free on the 64 GB model seems unreasonable: the usable capacity is less than half of the advertised capacity.

I feel similarly about the recovery partition discussion. If you remove the recovery image, I presume you will not be able to recover the Surface Pro without additional media. The Macbook Air, on the other hand, will allow you to do a fresh re-installation of OS X over the Internet with a completely blank disk: it's baked into the firmware. Therefore, removing the recovery image results in a feature disparity between the systems. Grumble.




No it doesn't. The 11" MBA is available in 64Gb or 128GB. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macboo...


True, at the base. Still goes up to 512.


Is there a 11" MBA that comes with more than 128GB of space?


Yes.


Thanks, just checked the 128GB model and you're right. But the 256GB model costs $300 more and the 512GB one costs $800 more!

That means you can get an MBA 11" 128GB plus a huge 128GB iPad instead of a MBA 11" 512GB.


Just picked up a micro SD adapter that sits flush in the MBA; allowing me to add another 64GB for about $55 ($40 card, $15 adapter). Not as fast as the internal storage, but perfectly fine for a music library or photos.


well, if we're allowing sd cards, the surface (pro and rt) comes with a built-in adapter I believe.


Yep, I wasn't trying to one-up surface


The 11" MacBook Air does not have an SD card reader.


Hence the requirement for "picking up a microSD adapter that sits flush in the MBA" -- presumably in the USB port.


No, the 13" Air has an SD card reader, one which leaves part of the card sticking out and requires a special microSD adapter to sit flush, like the one already linked on this thread: http://theniftyminidrive.com

Lots of people with 13" Airs don't realise the 11" lacks the SD card reader, so it's a common mistake to make. (It's also a pity the 11" doesn't have it - I've missed the SD card reader a lot more than the ethernet port.)


Very interesting, any chance you could provide Amazon links / brand names?


I suspect it's The Nifty MiniDrive: http://theniftyminidrive.com


The larger SSD is indeed a rip off.


Woe to those of us who are fans of the iMac for home usage. We have ONE SSD option in the new iMac, a whopping 1300 dollar upgrade to a 768g SSD. The previous system offered a 256g option which for many was sufficient.

How it benefits Apple to offer only a 768 (and why that number) I will never know. I can only imagine the sales they lose for not having the 256 or 512 options in the iMac. Its not like they don't have the parts


Any one know the available space(in GiB the 2 power number) on a brand new Macbook Air 64GB ?


This MacRumors thread says that someone's 64GB MBA came with just over 48GB (= 44.7 GiB).

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1092617


I don't understand how the system uses different amounts of space on different MBAs.


I'd like to know this too. It seems one could not make a similar comparison of Surface Pro 64 GB vs. MacBook Air 64 GB.

Perhaps the MBA 64 GB has hibernate image file removed or some other similar tricks?


Metadata overhead is proportional to the size of the disk, as is flash reserve space. Also, Apple might have sensibly left some stuff out of the 64GB image.


Block sizes get bigger on bigger disks, so files that take up partial blocks take up more space on a bigger disk.


But that wouldn't account for almost 15GB difference between the 11" 64GB MBA int hat forum post, and the 13" 128GB MBA in the article.


It's terrible whatever it is. And it hates network drives. And iPhoto and iTunes hate remote libraries. And then they create local ones without asking and mess everything up. And if 2 computers share the library terrible things happen to the library and it gets corrupted (presumably the library stops matching the locally held file and its very easy to accident use the wrong remote library as after a disconnection a pop up asks which library you want to use. Pay careful attention at this point as a database rebuilt is the minimum pain one will experience with a miss click.). And the OS hates telling you what is taking up space so good luck freeing it up. Never again - although the 64 was accidentally ordered rather than the 128 and I assumed everything would be ok. It wasn't.


Microsoft tries to address that issue by including an SD card slot for expanded storage. However, the +$300 that you have to pay to Apple to upgrade from 128GB to 256GB is also completely absurd.


That jump in storage is like printing money. Flash is, what, less than a buck a gigabyte?


Less than $1/GB retail, not wholesale. I bet Apple gets a killer deal on their flash chips.


And is dead in minutes under heavy writing. SD cards are really bad working storage, and should only be used as transitive medium.


I would like to see someone kill an SD card in "minutes." My camera shoots HD video at some stupidly high bit rate and stores it onto my SD card at damn near as fast as the card will take it, and I do this a lot. There are thousands of people who do it even more than I do, and it can take months or years to go through a card.


The problem is inconsistency[0]:

> (April 17th) We are currently testing a sample of 40 4GB microSD cards from Sandisk to failure

> Its May now and still no cards have failed.

> we were testing a card from a customer yesterday on a TS-7553 and it failed the DoubleStore stress tests within the day. [...] The test failed at approximately 13 GB of raw data written

> The ATP card failed a 3rd time after 65GB of data written.

> Another, separate ATP card failed after 877 GB of write activity

If the card is MLC and there's no or limited wear leveling, repeated local writes will shut the card dead quickly ("limited" as in wear leveling being applied only among e.g a 4MB group of cells, Sandisk happens to do that). I've also heard of some controllers implementing wear leveling, muddling the test results.

Some cards are truly reliable, others are craptastic, and everything in between is possible. The problem is you can't trust a brand and go for it, and getting the technical details, if at all possible, involves digging into cryptic and hard to find documentations.

I can't find the link again to a test of someone who tested various card brands and had them die semi-reliably within 15 minutes.

[0]: http://forum.embeddedarm.com/showthread.php?3-SD-card-endura...


I'm sure longevity is good for taking photos. I bet it wouldn't be so great for compiles on a dev box. Of course, no one would ever do that. It would be just too slow.


The numbers I'm familiar with were under a dollar for Flash that you'd want to have in a computer, with decent bandwidth. Not garbage flash drives made from a chip fab's borderline rejects.

Apple is making at least 50% margins on this, probably /much much/ more.


You can do that on the MBA as well.


An SD storage slot is not equivalent to having more space on the internal disk drive. It might be fine for storing a large music library or something like that, but for applications where disk latency or bandwidth really matter, there's just no comparison.


There is an SD card slot on the MacBook Air.


Not on the 11"


Agreed, it's a bit of a straw man. It's certainly an issue that hard drive capacity is advertised as being higher than it actually is (and that BS apple is pulling is inexcusable), but the actual issue people were taking with the Surface is the fact that when you buy it it's packed so full of bloat and crapware that half the useable disk space is already depleted on a 64gb model.


Pretty sure a bunch of that used space is actually just a recovery partition that you can get rid of if you want to.


You shouldn't have to tweak a consumer device fresh out of the box. Heck, I program on my MBA and literally the only thing I've done is let it run Software Update when it asks me, change the wallpaper, and dial up the trackpad speed.


You don't have to. He just said you could.


>but the actual issue people were taking with the Surface is the fact that when you buy it it's packed so full of bloat and crapware

What bloat and crapware are you talking about? Office?

If the 128GB MBA is taking up similar space, does it mean that it too comes with "bloat and crapware" ?




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