THis is great to see and maybe in 3 to 5 years the video tag maybe become as popular as flash? THough every web browser will need to support it, along with ogg vorbis and other non proprietary codecs. Microsoft ... erggh!

It's not so out of hand as all that. Chromium/chrome 3 dev and Firefox 3.5 are all already there or so close as to basically be there. Safari is very close, but the codec story isn't super clear. Microsoft could be closer, but ...they're also working with the html5 team. so it's not totally hopeless.

:( it doesn't work with mobile Safari on the iPhone.

The first words on the first page are:

The Video Bay - Beta Extreme (Don't expect anything to work at all)

and so began the death of flash

Flash might die for many things, but not this one.

How is that a bad thing?

I'm watching the demo video in Firefox Minefield right now and it works like a charme. Video without flash means for me (on linux) no random crashes or lockups. And if someone is too lazy to upgrade their browser then well, there are a bazillon flash video sites out there for them, no?

just a pain in the ass since you need to reboot your computer to do so. I went 2 months w/o a reboot, but ended up doing it when I had to upgrade firefox to see the site

Why do you need your computer on so much?

And what os are you running that a reboot was required for firefox?

it takes like 2 minutes to turn the computer on, and then you have to launch all the apps. I'm just used to keeping it always on, so that I can get started right away.

OS is vista, but the reboot was required by firefox, not the OS.

Firefox only required the reboot due to an OS limitation by the sounds of it though, I didn't have to reboot my linux box or my macbook.

That's a problem with your OS and not with firefox then. My fox sometimes updates itself multiple times a day, without any rebooting.