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>> As an example, at my child's soccer practice, it is not uncommon to fire off about 5 shots in any 2 second interval. It is also not uncommon to have 4 of those shots be out of focus.

I'm not sure Lytro's necessarily the right the solution for this either, at least not today.

I know I'll get laughed at and mocked for saying this, but I bought an inexpensive Nikon One camera for a very similar use case. I got tired of carrying my DSLR around on doggie play dates, and while the Nikon One may suck at an incredibly long list of things, the one thing it still does better than just about every other mirrorless camera out there (even with the Fuji XT1 and Sony A6000 now on sale) is AF on moving subjects. It can track a dog running towards me (the hardest part about AF in this use case) just about as well as my DSLR.

If you don't believe me about the moving subject AF, Thom Hogan agrees:

http://www.sansmirror.com/articles/autofocus-systems.html




Oh, I should have made this clearer. I have not used this camera. I have tried my camera phone in frustration a few times, but I am usually only happy with the shots I get from my DSLR. To the point that I picked up a used 5D Mark II. I'm very happy with this camera, but getting focus on far away shots with a zoom can be difficult. Solving that would be nice.

Which is why I think this conversation needs to happen. I'm not sure what the benefits are. I'm just not dismissive, either. Nor do I think the camera phone will completely destroy the DSLR any time soon.

(I do think it will eventually happen. Maybe not the camera phone, per se, but camera sensors could advance such that having many different cameras will be for novelty more than utility.)


Ok, that's clearer.

The 5DMKII isn't going to win any awards in AF speed (it is still a great camera, imo) but you can do some stuff to mitigate your issues. Try shooting with a smaller aperture to get more depth of field, and consider learning how to manually zone focus. If you know the distances for which your lens is "in focus" for a particular aperture, and can evaluate how far away your subjects are, you might get better results. I think this is how they did this in the "good old days".

It is more work, requires learning (I think it's a useful skill, but that's just me), but if you've got AF limitations and don't want to throw money at the problem (i.e., get an MKIII), it doesn't hurt to try.


Oh, certainly! Learning to use my camera has been paying dividends that I can't really explain. I expect I'll keep getting better.

Biggest thing for me to learn now is how to work with a zoom lens. Then, get a better one. (Well, I say zoom, I really just mean telephoto. Right now I have a zoom one, but expect to move to a prime one eventually.)

And I think you are dead on, learning how they did things in the "good old days" is a huge skill that has been helping a lot. Things are a little tougher when my child is effectively running around at random right now. I expect that to change, as well.


The "big trick" to sports photography has always been learning the sport, and that's only a little less crucial now with, say, a 1DX or a D4/D4S than it was back in my manual-focus days. However, that's not going to be of much help when the kids you're photographing don't know the sport. Expect a comparatively large number of failed shots, and learn to laugh. A 400/2.8 L isn't going to help a whole lot until there's some statistically-valid chance of anticipating the action. (And it's godawful heavy and awkward as well as really good used car expensive.) As your photography develops and your athlete develops, you'll know when (or if) it's time to go for the big guns. In the meantime, a fast 70-200 (with a good teleconverter for some shot types) will fill the bill, and unless you're printing huge, don't be afraid to crank the ISO a bit to keep the shutter speed down. (Look at the pictures, not the pixels. There ought to be some sort of license required to zoom in to 100%.)


I've definitely learned this one the hard way. At first I was excited about having everything at super low ISO. Now, I take a few quick shots to see what the lowest I can get away with and still get quick pictures.

Heck, often times I'm happy to just take videos. Really liking how well they turn out with this camera.


Actually, if you're on a soccer field, and the kids are far enough away, there's a good chance they're focused at infinity anyways, so you may not even need to focus (although your camera should be set to MF) as long as you've got the aperture small enough to give you wiggle room on the DOF.


That is what I'm trying to do for most shots. Works well enough. The problem is if I want a fairly tight shot.




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