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We're trying to have a conversation. If you are pedantic in ways that distract rather than help, you'll get downvoted.

His point about pushing vs pulling is a perfectly fine way of describing the issue. It's limited, but all explanations are.




I don't believe it distracts from the conversation. You cannot backup your premise with something that isn't true.


You don't believe it distracts. I and others do. Insisting without discussion that your personal standards win without question is a dick move.




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