As a newly hired Java dev I can understand the problems that Java has with many levels of unnecessary complexity. However, I do not think it is right to simply say that all or even most Java devs are bad. First of all the definition of bad is relative to the person and secondly I would not agree in saying that they are all or mostly bad. People are usually trying to do the right thing and if that does not fit inside your ideals then it is bad?

I guess all I am saying is not the throw stones. No one is perfect and to bash a whole community today based a snapshot of what you have seen is narrow-minded, look for the good parts and focus on those at least. Teach someone to code well in Java, if you feel so inclined to say that you know better. I know that there is a lot to learn, personally. I currently do like Javascript and Python as well but I would never look down on Javascript, Python, or Java communities. They are all great in their own way and in many similar ways.

We all enjoy coding at some level, why does anotehr way of doing that have to be so worng?