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After a bit of searching, apparently there is www.find.coop. I see most of the communities are in New York City. I'm sure they will welcome you in, just be sure to bring some money.



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Yet you participate in society, curious


> Yet you participate in society, curious

Sorry - not following.



Oh, I see. Thanks. Sadly that comic doesn't have any logic behind it. It's just to get you to memorise "this is how you should feel about people who make this argument".


The question is literally about escaping capitalism so it seems a fair response. "How do I complain about capitalism" is a different question and much easier to do.


It's not a fair response. It's a consistently obnoxious response to people actively searching for a better world. Like, no shit your computer is produced under capitalism...that's the active and dominant mode of production. If you want to escape it, you don't escape the things produced by it, you actively work towards changing the way those things are produced.

There is nothing meaningful or useful about the above response.

"Oh, you don't like air pollution? Why do you keep breathing then??"


No, it's a facetious response to those who want to experiment with billions of people's lives to replace capitalism which has brought so many people out of poverty and hunger with an unstated system that will most likely resemble communism which will again starve hundreds of millions as it has countless of times.

People can and do operate a commune within a capitalistic society. Go in with other people and buy some land to live off, make a contract to share all property. You can't do the inverse in a communistic society.

But no, we all have to do it or it won't work, because apparently it's only possible at scale and it can't be explained until then. Convenient.

So don't act like you can't go live life in a commune today, you can, just people don't, because capitalistic life is more comfortable.

They'd rather complain online about other people's lives, using their iPhone, drinking Starbucks, thinking about how know best for all more than the great minds that created the society they take for granted.


> those who want to experiment with billions of people's lives

Sorry, but you don't know that this is the method of anybody the response is targeted at. It's an ill-formed assumption, and many people are interested in counteracting the apparent and obvious detrimental aspects of capitalist society without violent revolution and totalitarian regimes.

> People can and do operate a commune within a capitalistic society.

Cool, good for them. Escapism isn't necessarily the goal, though. Obviously it depends on the person.

> You can't do the inverse in a communistic society.

Communism is the "free association of producers." If the producers wish to assign dictatorial control of their factory to one person and sell their labor to that person in exchange for a wage based on paper money, they are free to do so. But why would anybody willingly engage in this arrangement unless there is no alternative?

> They'd rather complain online about other people's lives, using their iPhone, drinking Starbucks, thinking about how know best for all

You have created a stereotype and are reinforcing it here. It's based in nothing.

> more than the great minds that created the society they take for granted.

Wait, capitalism was a constructed system? My impression is that it's a somewhat emergent system that started with feudalism and grew from there.


> Communism is the "free association of producers."

This sounds very hand-wavy. Why isn't capitalism this?


Capitalism is the free association of property owners.


No, capitalism isn't like air pollution in that analogy. It's more like "Oh you don't like air? Why do you keep breathing then?"


Lol yeah, capitalism == air. Odd how people lived for thousands of years without air...


You've sadly lost sight of the analogy.


Perhaps there is a tree bark scroll somewhere... using lampblack ink... written by candlelight from wild bees' wax? Erm, which language is the least capitalist?




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