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[502c] she is bent rather upon pleasure and the gratification of the spectators.

Socrates
Well now, that kind of thing, Callicles, did we say just now, is flattery ?

Callicles
Certainly.

Socrates
Pray then, if we strip any kind of poetry of its melody, its rhythm and its meter, we get mere speeches as the residue, do we not?

Callicles
That must be so.

Socrates
And those speeches are spoken to a great crowd of people?

Callicles
Yes.

Socrates
Hence poetry is a kind of public speaking.


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