Plato, Gorgias, section 502d

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[502d]

Callicles
Apparently.

Socrates
Then it must be a rhetorical public speaking or do you not think that the poets use rhetoric in the theaters?

Callicles
Yes, I do.

Socrates
So now we have found a kind of rhetoric addressed to such a public as is compounded of children and women and men, and slaves as well as free; an art that we do not quite approve of, since we call it a flattering one.

Callicles
To be sure.

Socrates
Very well; but now, the rhetoric addressed to the Athenian people,

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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